Preaching is not effective in the JW style because it has become so much of a routine to the point where putting on a suit or dress on Saturday morning to go out in field service is now no more than a ritual. It's like Catholics and Sunday Mass - just by showing up you get your weekly ticket stamped to heaven (or paradise). Hardly anyone was interested in going door-to-door anymore. It was all about Return Visits (much of it to elderly people who appreciated the company), Bible Studies with acquaintances or family members, or Not-At-Homes which frankly people hoped would continue to be not at home. It was a social outing with the traditional 'coffee break' which goes on longer than most COs are comfortable with. JWs have gotten so used to being turned down that they just go through the motions of preaching and the organisation is so backward thinking they can hardly think of a new strategy outside of wearing JW.ORG buttons.
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Preaching is a waste of time
by konceptual99 inbefore anyone gives me the "bears/wood" similarities, this is a post based on insidethekh's reply on the mormon v jw thread.
(http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/287545/1/who-is-copying-who-jws-or-mormons) i like to see wt friendly posts on here as some of the wt bashing displays the same logical fallacies as levelled against the wts and it's followers so it's good to consider reasoned debate.. on the one hand i think itkh makes a fair point if you compare the worldwide success of mormons v jws but there is an overall context to the preaching work that is completely ignored by those fully "in" and has been a major factor in my move from being an active witness to one on the cusp of getting out.
from a statistical point of view there are great headline numbers presented by the wts but if you put them in the context of the number of witnesses, conversation ratios, ratio of new witnesses to birth rates, numbers that must be leaving, growth differentials across the globe, penetration in muslim nations and so on then these numbers become meaningless.
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Revelation, its Grand Climax.... remember when?
by wallsofjericho ini remember being at the assembly in 1988?
when this was released.
everyone was so excited that we finally had a simple explanation of revelation with pictures.
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I just read the wiki article on Cedar Point. Not one mention of JWs. Not even a footnote that says 'Jehovah's Witnesses today believe that one of the seven trumpet blasts described in the book of Revelation occurred here'. Historic indeed. I doubt even zealous JWs would make the pilgrimage unless it were connected with existing plans to spend a day on the rides.
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Revelation, its Grand Climax.... remember when?
by wallsofjericho ini remember being at the assembly in 1988?
when this was released.
everyone was so excited that we finally had a simple explanation of revelation with pictures.
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It was largely due to that book that I really started having some doubts that these people in Brooklyn knew what they were talking about, with the 'trumpet blasts' in Ohio being the worst of the offenders. I was at the time independently reading about Mormons and their belief structure and how they felt that the Garden of Eden was located in Missouri USA. This was yet another example of a modern day sect taking passages out of the Bible and applying it to modern day locations that they were associated with in order to place a sense of permanancy and legitimacy upon their movements. When counseled about my subsequent lack of enthusiasm for anything JW related, I started asking questions about the Revelation book. When they realised that I had hit a point where I could not accept such claims nor could they defend them without resorting to the old 'FDS' argument, I was simply told to ignore the book and not think about it anymore. I was a bit upset by this 'solution', so I gathered up all of my Spanish and English copies of the book and gave them to the man who gave me this advice. He didn't say anything. I think he was shocked more than anything. There was a 'local needs' talk shortly after which vaguely referenced it but nothing further was done about it. I honestly feel to this day that the brothers couldn't in their own minds provide a satisfactory explanation for these claims and preferred to just let the matter drop.
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Armageddon will be here in less than 4 years!
by hoser inthat's the word according to my mil.
mrs hoser is starting a new career and the college and work training will take her four years to complete.
her mom is giving her a hard time telling her that the system will be over before she graduates.
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The WT's new slogan - Still making more money off of Armageddon than Bruce Willis ever did.
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"Opinions about dress and grooming..."
by leaving_quietly infrom the july 15, 2014 watchtower, page 15. par.
"opinions about dress and grooming, health and nutrition, and other personal matters may also trigger controversy.
accordingly, if no scriptural principle is being violated, jehovah's people wisely abstain from arguing over such matters, "for a slave of the lord does not need to fight, but needs to be gentle [tactful, ftn.
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Tony and the rest of the GB junta read what you just quoted and will say it applies to regular JW - JW interactions. It doesn't apply to them when they want to give counsel since they are the FDS. It's an astute move when you think about it - it halts all the endless inquiries to HQ complaining about dress and asking for a clarification whilst at the same time allows them to set forth law just by giving a talk. These talks get parroted by their representatives and it's all the same as writing it down in the WT without actually having to write it down and invite controversy.
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Governing Body sick of waiting! They want the paradise they were promised!
by donuthole inthis post is going to suggest that the governing body remains, as ray franz wrote, "captives of a concept".
like every jehovah's witness they were raised with the belief that the the paradise would be here by now.
unlike others, they are in a position to do something about.. why wait to rule over the earth?
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It is sick to think about all the promises made that are going unfulfilled. And these people still think they are in the 'last hour'. My grandmother made that distinction - 'last hour' vs 'last days' as was common before. It will only get worse once the generation that directly dealt with the 1975 debacle dies off and the organisation gets cleansed of its previous blunders in the minds of the leadeship.
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Is the WTS effectively 'pimping out' sisters?
by Simon ini can't remember the topic with the discussion about the talk where they suggested that sisters should only consider ministerial servants as potential marriage partners but think about the implications more.. are they trying to use the potential affections of sisters to enourage brothers to do more and work harder?.
isn't this a form of 'pimping out' the sisters by limiting their attention to the people contributing to them?.
it seems to cross a line to me but i guess it's not vastly different to "only marry another jw".. what do you think?.
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Coercing the young and available women towards a group of stalwart loyalists is a common cult technique. This is an example on a smaller scale regarding what happens in the Mormon polygamist communities. A relatively small group of loyalist 'good ol boys' get all the wives, leaving the marginal or unconnected members as outcasts. They end up feeling forced out and are known as 'lost boys'. They end up homeless, on drugs, or even killing themselves. The intended effect is the same - both the polygamists and the JWs want you to carry water for the big boys in the hope of a reward.
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Bob Dylan: The Basement Tapes Complete (the Bootleg Series Vol. 11)
by Simon inbob dylan is an artist like no other.
while some spend months or even years working on and crafting an album, some of his have been cut over a long weekend.. some have been great, some are near misses - some seem awful at the time and then come into their own a decade later.. the mistique around the man has always driven demand for his music especially the unrelease stuff.
the original bootleg album was "the basement tapes" recorded with the band after his motorcycle accident of the late 60's.
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As long as they stay "The Basement Tapes". Last ones I heard Robbie Robertson tweaked and overdubbed them like they belonged to him or something. Clean up the tape hiss and move the volume up but please please please Robbie don't alter the music and become the George Lucas of classic rock. I'll have to check this one out.
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The Great Tribulation is upon us! The UN will now take Obama's words as a 'go-ahead' for destroying religion as foretold in WT prophecy.
That organisation is such a joke. They can't even enforce their own resolutions, let alone destroying ALL world religions.
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Armageddon is next week... Are YOU prepared?
by Calebs Airplane inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjppkvhy79k#t=82.
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If I am going to hell then I will be granted something I have always longed for - a face-to-face encounter with one Joseph Franklin Rutherford, Esquire. I'll try to smuggle in some scotch and we'll see how it goes.